Comments on: Giving love to the Previewer http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/ Just some lines about my contribution as KDE dev =) Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:52:12 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Alexwebmaster http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-113 Alexwebmaster Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:04:06 +0000 http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-113 Hello webmaster I would like to share with you a link to your site write me here preonrelt@mail.ru Hello webmaster
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]]> By: Alessandro Diaferia http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-56 Alessandro Diaferia Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:02:12 +0000 http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-56 @Smarter: Previewer's behavior with folders has changed in the last commits, try it =) @Smarter: Previewer’s behavior with folders has changed in the last commits, try it =)

]]> By: Vide http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-55 Vide Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:37:38 +0000 http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-55 To all those who donn't understand why use preview in dolphin (more than in a plasmoid, where actually it doesn't have a lot of sense), when there are dedicated program to actually view the file, the answer is simple: in a perfect, ideal world, the ONLY way to view documents should be the "preview" way, with an "edit" button to modify the document, if needed, This, for every kind of document (and I'm talking about simple changes). If you need to accomplish more complex tasks, then a full blown program will be your option. But viewer like okular IMO, in the long run, should die. Yes, I know it sounds like Konqueror :P but done right this time :) To all those who donn’t understand why use preview in dolphin (more than in a plasmoid, where actually it doesn’t have a lot of sense), when there are dedicated program to actually view the file, the answer is simple: in a perfect, ideal world, the ONLY way to view documents should be the “preview” way, with an “edit” button to modify the document, if needed, This, for every kind of document (and I’m talking about simple changes). If you need to accomplish more complex tasks, then a full blown program will be your option.
But viewer like okular IMO, in the long run, should die.

Yes, I know it sounds like Konqueror :P but done right this time :)

]]> By: Smarter http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-54 Smarter Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:37:14 +0000 http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-54 I think I've found a way to crash plasma with it: 1) drag'n'drop a folder on the plasmoid 2) drag'n'drop something from the folder preview on the previewer 3) Boom. Can you reproduce this? I think I’ve found a way to crash plasma with it:
1) drag’n'drop a folder on the plasmoid
2) drag’n'drop something from the folder preview on the previewer
3) Boom.
Can you reproduce this?

]]> By: Smarter http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-53 Smarter Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:28:27 +0000 http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-53 It looks cool, but I think the trash-icon-to-remove-from-history is not very useful, instead you could add an entry "clean the history" in the context menu. Anyway, nice job ;) It looks cool, but I think the trash-icon-to-remove-from-history is not very useful, instead you could add an entry “clean the history” in the context menu.
Anyway, nice job ;)

]]> By: Alessandro Diaferia http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-51 Alessandro Diaferia Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:22:48 +0000 http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-51 @mike wyatt: "but wouldn’t the plasmoid shortcut need to be a global one? so each time the space bar is pressed the preview applet is activated. whether it be intentional or not" the shortcut should be active only in a file view.. no need for a global shortcut i think.. "I’m not sure if your aim is to compete with leopard’s quicklook, but it still has you beat here. with quicklook you can select and arbitrary number of documents, hit space, easily flick back and forth through them, full screen, create a slideshow, view all. maybe more but I think that’s the most of it" my aim is to create something useful. When i started Previewer just for fun i didn't know about Quicklook =) Btw i like so many features of it that i'll try to reproduce some.. My previewer is still very young =) "like if it’s hidden under a window on your desktop there’s not even a way for KDE to hide windows and show the desktop using a hotcorner" i can't get what you mean. Previewer's dialog can stay on top of other windows always visible so that you can continue checking a text file while copying its content on a konsole maybe.. Thanks a lot for your comment mike ;) @mike wyatt:

“but wouldn’t the plasmoid shortcut need to be a global one? so each time the space bar is pressed the preview applet is activated. whether it be intentional or not”

the shortcut should be active only in a file view.. no need for a global shortcut i think..

“I’m not sure if your aim is to compete with leopard’s quicklook, but it still has you beat here. with quicklook you can select and arbitrary number of documents, hit space, easily flick back and forth through them, full screen, create a slideshow, view all. maybe more but I think that’s the most of it”

my aim is to create something useful. When i started Previewer just for fun i didn’t know about Quicklook =) Btw i like so many features of it that i’ll try to reproduce some.. My previewer is still very young =)

“like if it’s hidden under a window on your desktop there’s not even a way for KDE to hide windows and show the desktop using a hotcorner”

i can’t get what you mean. Previewer’s dialog can stay on top of other windows always visible so that you can continue checking a text file while copying its content on a konsole maybe..

Thanks a lot for your comment mike ;)

]]> By: mike wyatt http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-50 mike wyatt Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:16:07 +0000 http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-50 "I cant (yet) understand the idea, even that I have seen before that Apple’s quicklook on leopard" it's meant to quite literally be a "quick look". saying you don't see a point to it is like saying you don't see a point to thumbnails example: opening photoshop can take longer than you'd like when you're just trying to review some work. pressing space and having a high-quality thumbnail come up is much faster than loading the program also, mimetypes can be associated with quicklook generators. a couple of useful ones are folders (hit space on a folder to view it's size and contents. hitting space then right, right, right, ... is faster for reviewing compared to entering the folder, reviewing, going up one level, right, ... ) and compressed files. you also don't have to leave the finder or have your desktop cluttered with windows “I cant (yet) understand the idea, even that I have seen before that Apple’s quicklook on leopard”

it’s meant to quite literally be a “quick look”. saying you don’t see a point to it is like saying you don’t see a point to thumbnails

example: opening photoshop can take longer than you’d like when you’re just trying to review some work. pressing space and having a high-quality thumbnail come up is much faster than loading the program

also, mimetypes can be associated with quicklook generators. a couple of useful ones are folders (hit space on a folder to view it’s size and contents. hitting space then right, right, right, … is faster for reviewing compared to entering the folder, reviewing, going up one level, right, … ) and compressed files. you also don’t have to leave the finder or have your desktop cluttered with windows

]]> By: Fri13 http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-49 Fri13 Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:15:49 +0000 http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-49 I still dont get it. But the reason is not the plasmoid, but on me. Because I'm slave of my habits, I cant (yet) understand the idea, even that I have seen before that Apple's quicklook on leopard. I dont bash the idea, I think it will be great for new users who does not yet have same basic habits what they do everytime. New users do not have to learn away the old habits and old way of thinking how to do preview. I hope that quickpreview can be set to own shortcut, example of middleclick when using a filemanager (dolphin, konqueror or folderview) so when you middle click file, you get it opened for there. It has potential but I cant just understand it yet, I need more information about it, I need to use it ;-) I still dont get it. But the reason is not the plasmoid, but on me. Because I’m slave of my habits, I cant (yet) understand the idea, even that I have seen before that Apple’s quicklook on leopard.
I dont bash the idea, I think it will be great for new users who does not yet have same basic habits what they do everytime. New users do not have to learn away the old habits and old way of thinking how to do preview.

I hope that quickpreview can be set to own shortcut, example of middleclick when using a filemanager (dolphin, konqueror or folderview) so when you middle click file, you get it opened for there.

It has potential but I cant just understand it yet, I need more information about it, I need to use it ;-)

]]> By: mike wyatt http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-48 mike wyatt Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:00:57 +0000 http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-48 in reply to comment #40 (http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-40): "try thinking of having that plasmoid in your panel with a keyshortcut (maybe spacebar) integrated in dolphin" that would be great. but wouldn't the plasmoid shortcut need to be a global one? so each time the space bar is pressed the preview applet is activated. whether it be intentional or not " Your desktop is covered by many windows and you have just downloaded a huge amount of files (e.g. 3 text files and 2 PDFs) ... " I'm not sure if your aim is to compete with leopard's quicklook, but it still has you beat here. with quicklook you can select and arbitrary number of documents, hit space, easily flick back and forth through them, full screen, create a slideshow, view all. maybe more but I think that's the most of it don't get me wrong I think this plasmoid is a great idea, just the usefulness of it isn't very obvious. like if it's hidden under a window on your desktop there's not even a way for KDE to hide windows and show the desktop using a hotcorner in reply to comment #40 (http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-40):

“try thinking of having that plasmoid in your panel with a keyshortcut (maybe spacebar) integrated in dolphin”

that would be great. but wouldn’t the plasmoid shortcut need to be a global one? so each time the space bar is pressed the preview applet is activated. whether it be intentional or not

” Your desktop is covered by many windows and you have just downloaded a huge amount of files (e.g. 3 text files and 2 PDFs) … ”

I’m not sure if your aim is to compete with leopard’s quicklook, but it still has you beat here. with quicklook you can select and arbitrary number of documents, hit space, easily flick back and forth through them, full screen, create a slideshow, view all. maybe more but I think that’s the most of it

don’t get me wrong I think this plasmoid is a great idea, just the usefulness of it isn’t very obvious. like if it’s hidden under a window on your desktop there’s not even a way for KDE to hide windows and show the desktop using a hotcorner

]]> By: kwilliam http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/giving-love-to-the-previewer/#comment-47 kwilliam Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:26:30 +0000 http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-47 This is pretty cool! However, I like the Quicklook video, where the previewer has no border. Maybe you could make the border thinner, with the thumbnails, forward/back, resize, and trash buttons at the bottom. Also, does plasmoid really need a close button? I would intuit that the previewer disappears when it loses focus, since it's meant just to temporarily glance at files, rather than open them like Gwenview or Okular. Assuming it gets integrated and works nicely, this would be a great feature for Dolphin! I'm assuming you launch it with a shortcut key, or maybe just hovering over the file for a few seconds. p.s. I also could not open the .ogv file. It crashed VLC and Dragon player, and was a silent, black video in Kaffeine. This is pretty cool! However, I like the Quicklook video, where the previewer has no border. Maybe you could make the border thinner, with the thumbnails, forward/back, resize, and trash buttons at the bottom. Also, does plasmoid really need a close button? I would intuit that the previewer disappears when it loses focus, since it’s meant just to temporarily glance at files, rather than open them like Gwenview or Okular.

Assuming it gets integrated and works nicely, this would be a great feature for Dolphin! I’m assuming you launch it with a shortcut key, or maybe just hovering over the file for a few seconds.

p.s. I also could not open the .ogv file. It crashed VLC and Dragon player, and was a silent, black video in Kaffeine.

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