Just one more idea (add widget stuff)


Ok first of all i’m really sorry for my poor mockup skills, i did my best but i’m just crappy at drawing with pc 🙂

And now the explanation..

This is my crazy idea for the “add widget”-stuff. Don’t really know if it is user friendly, nice and whatever, it just came to my mind before going to bed so i decided to put it down and show to you, folks :).

So, how is it supposed to work? Let’s go step by step:

  1. The user keeps a modifier pressed (e.g. ctrl+alt+whatever)
  2. The plus icon appears on the desktop at the cursor position
  3. The user clicks the plus icon
  4. That mockup stuff appears
  5. Categories are shown, the user navigates using keyboards to scroll items. NOTE: The number of visible items != the number of available items. Aka scrolling items through the right makes the last item on the right disappear and a new item on the left appear. Instead of categories this stuff can show favorites plasmoids as default or whatever you think it’s better 😉
  6. The user finds the plasmoid he was looking for (either navigating the categories or typing the plasmoid name)
  7. The user just clicks the plasmoid icon and it’ll be added exactly at the plus-icon position.

That’s it i think. Feel free to ignore this post or ask question or even insult me xD

P.S.: s/plasmoid/the name you like most for your plasma widgets/

Cheers dear devs!

17 Responses to “Just one more idea (add widget stuff)”

  1. 1 Burke March 21, 2009 at 2:11 am

    Aother cool idea from you this day. I am impressed, this is the innovation-day in KDE 😉

    Optically your idea is appealing. In terms of functionality I guess it is worth a try. Instead of a rather ugly window doalogue we see fleely floating icons.

    I recommend clicking or even hivering let the content of the chosen category appear – with an option to switch to the former layer of items.

    Again: let us just try that one out. I is a great idea ind I as a user would gladly beta-test this behaviour in real-life (i.e. all-day-work).

  2. 2 ComputerDruid March 21, 2009 at 2:22 am

    Would not work very well, if there were other plasmoids nearby, but it does look rather nice.

  3. 3 gp42 March 21, 2009 at 2:48 am

    I think that the only bad idea in this concept is to use keyboards to scroll items.
    And for add widget can be used context menu instead ctrl+alt+whatever .


  4. 4 ris March 21, 2009 at 3:25 am

    You’re forgetting that most users don’t know about modifier keys. (really, they don’t.)

  5. 5 Lucas Cardoso March 21, 2009 at 9:54 am

    Couldn’t you simply scroll by moving your mouse towards one of the “edges”?

  6. 6 Jakob March 21, 2009 at 9:58 am

    This is a really good idea, and in my opinion it goes well together with the rest of the look and feel of KDE.

    One more suggestion: After the user clicked the PLUS-Button, the mouse arrow should disappear and the user scrolls with moving the mouse to the left or to the rigth.

    The mouse arrow reappears after the user clicked an icon or when he releases the modifier keys.

  7. 7 Neil March 21, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Great idea! Really. in terms of usability your idea is really the most obvious.
    Although: why not just left or right-click on the plasma desktop? Right now, nothing happens, when clicking on the non-plasmoid space. Its the most obvious thing to just click somewhere and something happens directly (i.e. the “plus” appearing)
    Another thing is: I think, the mouse should still be the primary input device for this. My mom would never figure out to switch to keyboard use for selecting widgets then.

    Great work!

  8. 8 Burke March 21, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    I also think there should be a possibility to use the mouse.

    Right click => add plasmoids, or a click on the cashes and the plus appears. Next youi can freely move the mouse on your designated position/area and another click opens those circles. Last thing you have to do is coose ypur plasmoid and there it is;)

    Where is Aseigo? Haven’t heard from him awile, and his opinion to this this is most important concerning the realisation of your ideas…

  9. 9 Harald March 21, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    I don’t think it is a valid argument that just because nothing happens when you left-click on the desktop, it is ok to make it do so. Too many things that can be done on the same space makes it hurt when you misplace a couple of clicks even a tiny bit.

    One of the IMO slight annoyances of the kde3 desktop was that people kept adding small hard-to-see shortcuts here and there bound to various keyboard and mouseclicks, which made for pretty unpredictable results clicking around on things you didn’t know. (sure it’s nice with shortcuts if you know of them and use them, but like with the guy above bringing up his mom, most people don’t)

    I’m just saying we should think it through before make a normal left-click on the desktop actually do something

  10. 10 Neil March 21, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    @ Harald:

    sure, I totally agree, that it should be thought trough. I’m just trying to think new ways… maybe they work, maybe they’ll turn out crap.

    The easiest available input method “left-click on plasma-desktop” is not used – why not using it for something?
    (BTW:There are a lot of unused easy accessible input methods (at least easyer as rightclick-point-leftclick): i.e. mouse gestures.)

    But as “right-click” is associated to “settings” in everyone’s mind, this might be a better fit.

  11. 11 Laerte March 21, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Shouldn´t this be discussed within the KDE Brainstorm forum?

    No offenses, I just feel that there is a better place to put this kind of stuff than the Planet.

  12. 12 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer March 21, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    I reaaly liked the idea since I saw the image, no need to read the text. Excellent.

  13. 13 Purple-Bobby March 21, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    Get the ideas out, it is brainstorming after all.
    It got me thinking…
    As you drag the widget, could the other widgets just move out of the way, and move back once the dragged widget has past them.

    I guess the widgets would have a rubbery bumper zone, so they made use of the available space.

  14. 14 Chani March 22, 2009 at 3:19 am

    I’m not sure I’d actually like to use such a thing, but it might be a good candidate for a mouse plugin thingy (I really need a better name for those) once I’ve written the plugin framework for soc.

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